[Beowulf] [OT] MPI-haters

Prentice Bisbal prentice.bisbal at rutgers.edu
Thu Mar 10 10:32:19 PST 2016


This list used to get A LOT more traffic. Not sure what happened over 
the past few years. I miss the witty banter and information I used to 
get from all that traffic, but I definitely don't miss Vincent.

Prentice

On 03/10/2016 06:36 AM, C Bergström wrote:
> Given the relatively low volume here I may not disagree with you, but
> the topics may touch on something that others consider "trollish" -
> Having a focused group allows those who are interested to participate
> and others who simply don't care about MPI-alternatives or my opinions
> about what sucks.
>
> I also plan to promote the group besides just here - I don't feel
> comfortable advertising a bunch of people to subscribe to a beowulf
> mailing list which I can't even help moderate. (Seems impolite at
> best)
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:42 AM, Prentice Bisbal
> <prentice.bisbal at rutgers.edu> wrote:
>> On 03/04/2016 05:43 AM, C Bergström wrote:
>>> Sorry for the shameless self indulgence, but there seems to be a
>>> growing trend of love/hate around MPI. I'll leave my opinions aside,
>>> but at the same time I'd love connect and host a list where others who
>>> are passionate about scalability can vent and openly discuss ideas.
>>>
>>> Despite the comical name, I've created mpi-haters mailing list
>>> http://lists.pathscale.com/mailman/listinfo/mpi-haters_lists.pathscale.com
>>
>> I think the beowulf lift serves that exact purpose rather well. I honestly
>> don't see the need for a separate list for those topics, I think this list
>> is an appropriate venue. But since I hate to be left out of any
>> conversation, I subscribed to it any way.
>>>
>>> To start things off - Some of the ideas I've been privately bouncing
>>> around
>>>
>>> Can current directive based approaches (OMP/ACC) be extended to scale
>>> out. (I've seen some research out of Japan on this or similar)
>>>
>>> Is Chapel c-like syntax similar enough to easily implement in clang
>>>
>>> Can one low level library succeed at creating a clean interface across
>>> all popular industry interconnects (libfabrics vs UCX)
>>>
>>> Real world success or failure of "exascale" runtimes? (What's your
>>> experience - lets not pull any punches)
>>>
>>> I won't claim to see ridiculous scalability in most web applications
>>> I've worked on, but they had so many tools available - Why have I
>>> never heard of memcache being used in a supercomputer and or why isn't
>>> sharding ever mentioned...
>>>
>>> Everyone is welcome and lets keep it positive and fun - invite your
>>> friends
>>>
>>>
>>> ./C
>>>
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