[Beowulf] [External] RIP CentOS 8

Ryan Novosielski novosirj at rutgers.edu
Tue Dec 8 18:13:46 UTC 2020

I don’t think that’s all that hard to answer: because it doesn’t. Who on this list is magically going to buy hundreds of RedHat licenses because of this? Will someone somewhere? Some folks will move to Ubuntu or a competitor, and some will think twice about renewing an investment in RedHat without the CentOS critical mass.

I wonder how IBM figures into this, if at all directly.

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> On Dec 8, 2020, at 1:07 PM, Prentice Bisbal via Beowulf <beowulf at beowulf.org> wrote:
> Also, I'm not surprised at all by this. It seemed like it would be only a matter of time after RH ntook control of CentOS that they'd do something to stop it from competing with RHEL. Why support a free product that cannibalizes your commercial sales?
> Prentice
> On 12/8/20 11:27 AM, Chris Samuel wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> It looks like the CentOS project has announced the end of CentOS 8 as a version that tracked RHEL for the end of 2021, it will be replaced by the CentOS stream which will run ahead of RHEL8. CentOS 7 is unaffected (though RHEL7 only has 3 more years of life left).
>> https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
>> > The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the
>> > next year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild
>> > of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which
>> > tracks just ahead of a current RHEL release. CentOS Linux 8, as
>> > a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021. CentOS Stream
>> > continues after that date, serving as the upstream (development)
>> > branch of Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
>> >
>> > Meanwhile, we understand many of you are deeply invested in
>> > CentOS Linux 7, and we’ll continue to produce that version through
>> > the remainder of the RHEL 7 life cycle.
>> I always thought that Fedora was meant to be that upstream for RHEL, but perhaps the arrangement now will be Fedora -> CentOS -> RHEL.
>> I wonder where this leaves the Lustre project, currently they only support RHEL7/CentOS7 as the server, and more interestingly, people who build Lustre appliances on top of CentOS.
>> Then there's the question of projects like OpenHPC who've only just announced support for CentOS8 (and OpenSuSE15). They could choose to track CentOS Stream instead, probably without too much effort.
>> I do wonder if this opens the door for the return of something like Scientific Linux.
>> All the best,
>> Chris
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> Prentice Bisbal
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> Research Computing
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