[Beowulf] Frontier Announcement

[Prentice Bisbal]

On 5/8/19 2:13 PM, Gus Correa wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 1:47 PM Jörg Saßmannshausen 
> <sassy-work at sassy.formativ.net <mailto:sassy-work at sassy.formativ.net>> 
> wrote:
>
>     Dear all,
>
>     I think the answer to the question lies here:
>
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenACC
>
>     As I follow these things rather loosely, my understanding was that
>     OpenACC
>     should run on both nVidia and other GPUs. So maybe that is the
>     reason why it
>     is a 'pure' AMD cluster where both GPUs and CPUs are from the same
>     supplier?
>     IF all of that is working out and if it is really true that you
>     can compile
>     and run OpenACC code on both types of GPUs, it would a be big win
>     for AMD.
>
>     Time will tell!
>
>     All the best from my TARDIS!
>
>     Jörg
>
>
> Once upon a time portability, interoperabiilty, standardization, were 
> considered good software and hardware attributes.
> Whatever happened to them?
Competition and vendor lock-in.
>
>     Am Dienstag, 7. Mai 2019, 16:59:48 BST schrieben Sie:
>     > >   I think it is interesting that they are using AMD for
>     > >
>     > > both the CPUs and GPUs
>     >
>     > I agree. That means a LOT of codes will have to be ported from
>     CUDA to
>     > whatever AMD uses. I know AMD announced their HIP interface to
>     convert
>     > CUDA code into something that will run on AMD processors, but I
>     don't
>     > know how well that works in theory. Frankly, I haven't heard
>     anything
>     > about it since it was announced at SC a few years ago.
>     >
>     > I would not be surprised if AMD pursued this bid quite agressively,
>     > possibly at a significant loss, for the opportunity to prove
>     their GPUs
>     > can compete with NVIDIA and demonstrate that codes can be
>     successfully
>     > converted from CUDA to something AMD GPUs can use to demonstrate GPU
>     > users don't need to be locked in to a single vendor. If so, this
>     could
>     > be a costly gamble for the DOE and AMD, but if it pays off, I
>     imagine it
>     > could change AMD's fortunes in HPC.
>     >
>     >   "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday" doesn't apply just to cars.
>     >
>     > Prentice
>     >
>     > On 5/7/19 4:43 PM, Jörg Saßmannshausen wrote:
>     > > Hi Prentice,
>     > >
>     > > that looks interesting and I hope it means I will finally get
>     the neutron
>     > > structure which was measured last year there! :-)
>     > >
>     > > On a more serious note: I think it is interesting that they
>     are using AMD
>     > > for both the CPUs and GPUs. It sounds at least very fast of
>     what they
>     > > want to build, lets hope their design will work as planned as
>     well.
>     > >
>     > > All the best from London
>     > >
>     > > Jörg
>     > >
>     > > Am Dienstag, 7. Mai 2019, 10:32:42 BST schrieb Prentice Bisbal
>     via
>     Beowulf:
>     > >> ORNL's Frontier System has been announced:
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     https://www.hpcwire.com/2019/05/07/cray-amd-exascale-frontier-at-oak-ridg
>     > >> e/
>
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