[Beowulf] Oh.. IBM eats Red Hat

Jeffrey Layton laytonjb at gmail.com
Mon Oct 29 16:07:31 PDT 2018


I hate autocorrect. Get off my lawn!

I meant to say you don't want Greg exposing himself.



On Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 19:04 Jeffrey Layton <laytonjb at gmail.com> wrote:

> And you don't want agree exposing himself (sorry - had to say it).
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 12:55 Joe Landman <joe.landman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 10/29/18 12:44 PM, David Mathog wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> > It turns out that getting up to date compilers and libraries has become
>> >> quite important for those working on large distributed code bases.
>> >
>> > Libraries are harder.  Try to build a newer one than ships with CentOS
>> > and it is not uncommon to end up having to build many other libraries
>> > (recursive dependencies) or to hit a brick wall when a kernel
>> > dependency surfaces.
>>
>>
>> This was my point about building things in a different tree.  I do this
>> with tools I use in https://github.com/joelandman/nlytiq-base , which
>> gives me a consistent set of tools regardless of the platform.
>>
>> Unfortunately, some of the software integrates Conda, which makes it
>> actually harder to integrate what you need.  Julia, for all its
>> benefits, is actually hard to build packages for such that they don't
>> use Conda.
>>
>>
>> > In biology apps of late there is a distressing tendency for software
>> > to only be supported in a distribution form which is essentially an
>> > entire OS worth of libraries packaged with the one (often very small)
>> > program I actually want to run.  (See "bioconda".)  Most of these
>> > programs will build just fine from source even on CentOS 6, but often
>> > the only way to download a binary for them is to accept an additional
>> > 1Gb (or more) of other stuff.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, this has become common across many fields.  Containers become the
>> new binaries, so you don't have to live with/accept the platform based
>> restrictions.  This was another point of mine.  And Greg K @Sylabs is
>> getting free exposure here :D
>>
>>
>> --
>> Joe Landman
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>> t: @hpcjoe
>> w: https://scalability.org
>> g: https://github.com/joelandman
>> l: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelandman
>>
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