[Beowulf] Hacked MBs It was only a matter of time

Fred Youhanaie fly at anydata.co.uk
Fri Oct 5 10:35:07 PDT 2018


So you can detect the implants using AI ...

https://spectrum.ieee.org/riskfactor/computing/hardware/this-tech-would-have-spotted-the-secret-chinese-chip-in-seconds

All you need is a trustworthy computer for the AI computations!

Cheers,
Fred

On 05/10/18 13:23, Douglas Eadline wrote:
> 
>  From a technology standpoint, this is very interesting. For me
> the bigger picture is trusting complex things.  This is not new,
> in 1984 Ken Thompson brought up software "bugging"
> 
> http://wiki.c2.com/?TheKenThompsonHack
> 
> Funny, many of my non-geek friends
> are surprised at my skepticism and mistrust of
> many things digital.
> 
> --
> Doug
> 
> 
> 
>> That is a tiny capacitor that sits on your motherboard with a very thin
>> glue. You practically need a microscope to move one, and there are
>> hundreds of them on each board. So which one is it? Maybe you can just
>> scrape it off.
>> Buy there is another problem: OEM. That means an outside builder,
>> Supermicro perhaps built your motherboard.
>> And, why tell this story 3 years later?
>> Buy in the subject of removing it, a capacitor reads a tiny stream of
>> electricity and opens its hate at a determined voltage, correct? That sets
>> off another capacitor and so on until what exactly happens?
>>
>> On October 4, 2018, at 7:08 PM, John Hearns via Beowulf
>> <beowulf at beowulf.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thankyou to James Cuff for linking to The Register's article :
>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/10/04/supermicro_bloomberg/
>> On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 20:52, Andrew Latham <lathama at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> And news directly from Supermicro
>>> https://www.supermicro.com/newsroom/pressreleases/2018/press181004_Bloomberg.cfm
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 8:48 AM Douglas Eadline <deadline at eadline.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies
>>>>
>>>> (limited free articles)
>>>>
>>>> First question: So who has Supermicro motherboards?
>>>> Second question: Where else are these devices?
>>>> Third question: Who else is making/inserting these kind of devices?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Doug
>>>>


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