[Beowulf] standards for GFLOPS / power consumption measurement?

Ted Matsumura matsumura at gmail.com
Tue May 10 08:47:54 PDT 2005


Vincent,
 Doug's web pages mention that the components should be readily available 
from multiple sources, so the free or limited supply spare parts, while they 
might work out great, aren't really applicable to his < $2500 DIY project.

 On 5/10/05, Vincent Diepeveen <diep at xs4all.nl> wrote: 
> 
> How do you categorize second hand bought systems?
> 
> I bought for 325 euro a third dual k7 mainboard + 2 processors.
> 
> The rest i removed from old machines that get thrown away otherwise.
> Like 8GB harddisk. Amazingly biggest problem was getting a case to reduce
> sound production :)
> 
> Network cards i got for free, very nice gesture from someone.
> 
> So when speaking of gflops per dollar at linpack, this will destroy of
> course any record of $2500 currently, especially for applications needing
> bandwidth to other processors, if i see what i paid for this self
> constructed beowulf.
> 
> At 05:19 PM 5/9/2005 -0400, Douglas Eadline - ClusterWorld Magazine wrote:
> >On Thu, 5 May 2005, Ted Matsumura wrote:
> >
> >> I've noted that the orionmulti web site specifies 230 Gflops peak, 110
> >> sustained, ~48% of peak with Linpack which works out to ~$909 / Gflop ?
> >> The Clusterworld value box with 8 Sempron 2500s specifies a peak Gflops
> by
> >> measuring CPU Ghz x 2 (1 - FADD, 1 FMUL), and comes out with a rating 
> of
> 52%
> >> of peak using HPL @ ~ $140/Gflop (sustained?)
> >
> >It is hard to compare. I don't know what sustained or peak means in the
> >context of their tests. There is the actual number (which I assume is
> >sustained) then the theoretical peak (which I assume is peak).
> >
> >And our cost/Gflop does not take into consideration the construction
> >cost. In my opinion when reporting these type of numbers, there
> >should be two categories "DIY/self assembled" and "turn-key". Clearly
> >Kronos is DIY system and will always have an advantage of a
> >turnkey system.
> >
> >
> >> So what would the orionmulti measure out with HPL? What would the
> >> Clusterworld value box measure out with Linpack?
> >
> >Other benchmarks are here (including some NAS runs):
> >
> >http://www.clusterworld.com/kronos/bps-logs/
> 
> >
> 
> >
> >> Another line item spec I don't get is rocketcalc's (
> >> http://www.rocketcalc.com/saturn_he.pdf )"Max Average Load" ?? What 
> does
> >> this mean?? How do I replicate "Max Average Load" on other systems??
> >> I'm curious if one couldn't slightly up the budget for the clusterworld
> box
> >> to use higher speed procs or maybe dual procs per node and see some
> >> interesting value with regards to low $$/Gflop?? Also, the clusterworld
> box
> >> doesn't include the cost of the "found" utility rack, but does include 
> the
> >> cost of the plastic node boxes. What's up with that??
> >
> >This was explained in the article. We assumed that shelving was optional
> >because others my wish to just put the cluster on existing shelves or
> >table top (or with enough Velcro strips and wire ties build a standalone
> >cube!)
> >
> >Doug
> >>
> >
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