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    <p>How much power does that system use at full-tilt? I'm guessing
      about 2250 - 2500 kW. <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/22/2016 07:40 PM, Stu Midgley
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      <div dir="ltr">I measured the power draw of our 2RU 8 phi nodes
        with and without fans... the fans draw about 20% power.
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        <div>On a 2200kW node that's considerable.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 5:36 AM, Mark
          Hahn <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                Extra, the direct contact cooling stuff must still have
                the fans in the<br>
                nodes to keep the dimms/disks/power supplies cool...
                thus use considerably<br>
                more power than nodes without fans.<br>
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            why do you say "considerably"?  1u muffin fans are annoying
            and not that efficient, but even 1U could still use
            blowers.  and it's not as if<br>
            you need a lot of airflow to keep 5-20W of support hardware
            cool.<br>
            (that would be for non-extreme numbers of disks/dimms/nics -
            though it occurs to me that motherboards also have some
            power regulation in them,<br>
            and if 2 sockets are drawing 250w, then 90% efficient
            regulation would still mean 28W extra heat to dissipate.)<br>
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            iirc a typical 1U fan dissipates up to ~3W, but that's only
            when running full on (screaming 14krpm...).  not to mention
            the wide availability of simple 4-system-in-2u chassis (more
            efficient fans).<br>
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        <div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Dr
          Stuart Midgley<br>
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