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class=874521216-14042009>As far as "Desktop" machines go there hasn't been an
application invented that needs more. Because memory & disk storage
prices fell programmers got sloppy & crammed in a lot more, but little to
none of it was actually an application that truly needed more because of
purpose, only poor design.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> beowulf-bounces@beowulf.org
[mailto:beowulf-bounces@beowulf.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Bruno
Coutinho<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
richard.walsh@comcast.net<BR><B>Cc:</B> beowulf@beowulf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Beowulf] Moores Law is dying<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I think that even if they stop scaling down size of desktop
processors due lack of interest in more performance, <BR>someone will continue
doing it (even at a much slower rate) for HPC market.<BR>No matter how much
computing power future processors will have, someone will invent a application
that needs more.<BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>2009/4/8 <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
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face="times new roman, new york, times, serif">----- Original Message
-----<BR>From: "Ken Schuster" <<A href="mailto:ken@kschuster.org"
target=_blank>ken@kschuster.org</A>><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:beowulf@beowulf.org"
target=_blank>beowulf@beowulf.org</A><BR>Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009
2:29:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<BR>Subject: [Beowulf] Moores Law is
dying<BR><BR></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face="times new roman, new york, times, serif">>An IBM
researcher says Moore's Law is running out of gas. IB</FONT><FONT
face="times new roman, new york, times, serif">M Fellow Carl Anderson,
who</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="times new roman, new york, times, serif">>oversees
physical design and tools in its server division, predicted the end of
</FONT><FONT face="times new roman, new york, times, serif">continued
exponential</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="times new roman, new york, times, serif">>scaling
down of the size and cost of semiconductors: </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="times new roman, new york, times, serif">>"There was
exponential growth in the railroad industry in the 1800s; there was
exponential</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="times new roman, new york, times, serif">>growth in
the automobile industry in the 1930s and 1940s; and there was
exponential growth</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="times new roman, new york, times, serif">>in the
performance of aircraft until [test pilots reached] the speed of sound.
But eventually</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
face="times new roman, new york, times, serif">>exponential growth
always comes to an end," said Anderson. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Mmm ... he may be right, but I do not
like his historical references which seem</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">to conflate engineering and
economics. Better to refer to the improvement in</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">magnets or something similar.
But, I like the speed of sound reference because</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">it suggests that there is a Moore's
Law barrier to be broken. There is a lot of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">talk about "walls" these days ... the
memory wall, the power wall, ... but we with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">respect compute power we have a ways
to go before we reach the Bremermann Limit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT
face="Times New Roman">rbw</FONT></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR></DIV></DIV><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Beowulf
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