[Beowulf] Cluster Authentication (LDAP,NIS,AD)
hearnsj at googlemail.com
Thu Dec 28 01:29:55 PST 2017
I will back up what Lachlan said.
I set up a new HPC facility for the University of Greenwich in the UK,
which uses sssd to authenticate against a campus AD.
One thing to remember - campus wide you have everyone in the AD. SO do the
a) create a new group called 'HPC-users'and restrict the logins to
HPC-users only (and maybe HPC-admins also!)
b) you can automate the creation of home directories using a PAM plugin on
I recommend against the oddjob version of pam_mkhomedir - ti did nto behave
too well, and the 'normal' version worked just fine.
Also you might want an /etc/profile.d script which wil create areas on your
scratch/parallel storage for users when they first log in
Where I work as the moment we use nslcd rather than sssd. I Was told there
was an issue with sssd, but I forget what it was exactly.
One tip with sssd, I found that when initially working with it I had to do
a wipe of the cache and a forced reload.
The documentation is there on how to do that. Do not be afraid to do this -
the procedure sounds scary but works perfectly well.
sssd caches things quite aggressively so you might have to restart it to
get the 'ground truth' sometimes.
sssd also has a very odd behaviour when you have a very large number of
groups (probably as MIT has)
It creates a huge sparse file for groups (or something similar). The file
looks scarily big - but being sparse of course it is not really.
Just a quirk of how it works I gather, sont let my comment put you off.
On 28 December 2017 at 08:40, Nick Evans <nick.c.evans at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Robert,
> We are currently running our HPC, servers and desktops with storage needs
> serviced by an Isilon. We have CIFS and NFS capabilities both of which use
> the AD for authentication.
> Currently our cluster is Centos 6.8 NFS and SSH authenticating off of the
> AD using SSSD. We also have a number of Centos 7.4 machines that are
> mapping NFS with AD auth from SSSD.
> The only thing to watch is the Isilon has the Lookup UID setting by
> default set to off so you can quite quickly run into the NFS 16 group limit
> but other than that ours has be rock solid.
> On 28 December 2017 at 11:54, Lachlan Musicman <datakid at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 28 December 2017 at 13:41, Robert Taylor <rgt at wi.mit.edu> wrote:
>>> Hi cluster gurus. I want to pick the your collective brains.
>>> Right now, where I work, we have and isilon, and netapp, which we use
>>> for our small 250core compute cluster.
>>> We have NIS for authentication and automount maps on the cluster side,
>>> and AD for authentication on the windows side, and LDAP for yet for other
>>> things to authenticate against.
>>> The storage is connected to both nis and AD, and does it's best to match
>>> the two sides up.
>>> We have had some odd issues with authentication as of late with sources
>>> getting out of sync, which has brought up the discussion for consolidating
>>> down to a single source of truth, which would be AD. RFC2307 talks about
>>> stuffing NIS data into LDAP/AD, and there are commercial products such as
>>> centrify that can do it.
>>> Does anyone run an entirely AD authentication environment with their
>>> compute cluster
>>> authenticating against it and using it for automount maps and such?
>>> Can you tell me what were your reasons for going that way, and any snags
>>> that you hit on the way?
>> We were asked/tasked with this a couple of years ago.
>> It took almost two years of shaking out the issues, but FreeIPA/SSSD in a
>> one-way trust with AD has worked excellently for 18 months. Our SLURM
>> cluster is on CentOS 7.4, and we needed to use the COPR version of SSSD
>> (1.16.x) rather than the version in the repos (1.15.x) but otherwise is
>> fine. Would absolutely recommend.
>> Note that a lot of the issues we saw were directly related to our AD,
>> rather than any problems with FreeIPA and SSSD. For example for a long time
>> our AD login names had spaces in them (! would not recommend), and the age
>> and size of the AD instance also lead to a few issues. Nothing that
>> couldn't be worked around. The devs and community are excellent at
>> responding to requests for help. It's a RedHat product. so if you have a
>> subscription it would be even easier.
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