[Beowulf] Q: IB message rate & large core counts (per node)?
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Mark Hahn hahn at mcmaster.caTue Feb 23 13:57:23 PST 2010
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> Coalescing produces a meaningless answer from the message rate > benchmark. Real apps don't get much of a benefit from message > coalescing, but (if they send smallish messages) they get a big > benefit from a good non-coalesced message rate. in the interests of less personal/posturing/pissing, let me ask: where does the win from coalescing come from? I would have thought that coalescing is mainly a way to reduce interrupts, a technique that's familiar from ethernet interrupt mitigation, NAPI, even basic disk scheduling. to me it looks like the key factor would be "propagation of desire" - when the app sends a message and will do nothing until the reply, it probably doesn't make sense to coalesce that message. otoh it's interesting if user-level can express non-urgency as well. my guess is the other big thing is LogP-like parameters (gap -> piggybacking). assuming MPI is the application-level interface, are there interesting issues related to knowing where to deliver messages? I don't have a good understanding about where things stand WRT things like QP usage (still N*N? is N node count or process count?) or unexpected messages. now that I'm inventorying ignorance, I don't really understand why RDMA always seems to be presented as a big hardware issue. wouldn't it be pretty easy to define an eth or IP-level protocol to do remote puts, gets, even test-and-set or reduce primitives, where the interrupt handler could twiddle registered blobs of user memory on the target side? regards, mark hahn.
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