[Beowulf] Software RAID?
landman at scalableinformatics.com
Thu Nov 22 06:37:30 PST 2007
Jim Lux wrote:
>> If you can afford SCSI drives, why not buy a great raidcard as well?
> What if your raid card fails, and the mfr no longer is in business?
> You'd have to do some intelligent sparing of raid controllers, too.
A good vendor will have a few extra of these in stock. We have seen
motherboard companies come and go, and this has impacted users.
Especially when they have some not-too-popular features like HTX
connectors, and you can't get replacements that will fit the box form
This is not (unfortunately) a theoretical point (unlike the RAID card
issue), this did happen to us.
We have seen tape drive manufacturers refuse to sell users replacement
drives for failed tape drives, as they wanted to sell their new stuff.
Which does a customer with years of data backed up on the old system no
Its not just "if they go out of business", its "if they decide not to
sell/support this anymore" which is a wider case.
This is why, if you do get one of those horrible proprietary solutions (
:^ ), you need to insist on some amount of parts depot, including the
horrible proprietary cards. This is an insurance policy against
failure. Then again, so is RAID1 (replication, where you pay twice as
much for your drive space).
The issue of a vendor turning something into a brick does happen. The
idea is to guard against the risk by choosing/preferring open hardware
whereever possible. Even if the vendor ceases production/sales/support,
you have a fighting chance of continuing support for as long as you wish
it. In the OFED package, we see support for the Amasso 1100 cards.
Amasso went out of business several years ago. Their cards are iWARP
card, with TOEs, and other bits. Despite many protestations to the
contrary, these cards did a great job on MPI. These days, the Myrinet
and IB cards are about the same price as the Amasso cards, though the
switches are a little more.
This is BTW one of the things I like about Myricom. Their new cards do
a nice job on 10GbE, put one into a unit yesterday, and it took me 2
minutes to install the driver and make it work. It is 10 GbE.
Something happens, we have source code, and there are cards we can depot
stock. Same with the "horrible proprietary RAID vendors".
I guess I find it amusing that people warn against the "horrible
proprietary hardware vendors" while happily expounding upon the usage of
a proprietary software package :) Either company goes away, you have an
expensive brick/frisbee. Its hard to get license changes/updates from a
company that is out of business.
More to the point, if you are going to build a business case, it is very
important to ask "how do I handle X". Proprietary is not evil in and of
itself. Proprietary without a plan to deal with the "what happens if"
issues is dangerous. But then again, open hardware/software without
such a plan is also dangerous ... would cost you downtime and effort.
Joseph Landman, Ph.D
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