[Beowulf] hpl size problems
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Robert G. Brown rgb at phy.duke.eduWed Sep 28 08:21:36 PDT 2005
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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Mark Hahn wrote: >> workstations, because of both security and performance. Things like >> ipchains or ipfilters tend to be "expensive" overhead on all TCP/UDP >> connections, and overhead in parallel computations is anathema. So one > > has anyone actually measured this? I suspect that the marginal overhead > for iptables is ~1 us, and at least with gigabit, that's almost in the > noise (say 3%). I don't think anyone who is satisfied with gigabit > would care... I haven't measured it per se, so this is perhaps anecdotal. However, anecdotally I've observed an effect (or thought I did) in years past, sometimes to the point where it was annoying in interactive operation. I used to turn it off altogether on many systems. Looking again for the answer to this I did find this: http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html#INTRODUCTION which is basically EVERYTHING you could ever have wanted to know about iptables except how expensive it is. Which they likely cannot say because after all it depends on the complexity of the iptables ruleset, right? Which does damn near regexp-like matching of damn near arbitrary combinations of damn near any relevant networking field (src, dst, port, service, ip ranges...). If they've moved this "into" the TCP stack it may have sped it up a lot from my early experiences, but there are still a lot of conditionals to traverse to make a decision per rule per packet and, may be a lot of rules. So maybe I'm wrong here -- it would be lovely if I were, at least for a minimal/default (ssh only inbound) firewall. rgb -- Robert G. Brown http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/ Duke University Dept. of Physics, Box 90305 Durham, N.C. 27708-0305 Phone: 1-919-660-2567 Fax: 919-660-2525 email:rgb at phy.duke.edu
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