[Beowulf] OS for 64 bit AMD
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Kevin Ball kball at pathscale.comWed Apr 6 11:12:43 PDT 2005
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On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 08:36, Joe Landman wrote: > Richard Walsh wrote: > >We carry on with > > it anyway > > because the implications (all of mathematics) are so useful and > > interesting. > > I suspect that it is a little more rigorous than that. We develop > formalisms that allow us to test things reductio ad-absurdium to help > define things better. This allows us to build up rigorous and > (hopefully) testable hypotheses. > > Then again, I like the simplicity of "we do math because it is useful". > That math is founded upon such simple axioms is one of the beautiful and fascinating things about math, and the fact that there actually is no necessary connection with any sort of reality is what makes it 'pure'. By pure I mean that in mathematics, you can have statements which you know are true, because all of the underlying assumptions (the axioms) are a part of the system. Compare this to science, trying to describe something where the underlying assumptions are unknowable, but we try to model them as best we can. Math is not testable; if it were, it would be science. Instead we take a set of arbitrary, or if not completely arbitrary at least entirely human-made axioms and work through increasingly complex combinations of and abstractions from them. The idea of proving something is unique to mathematics, because it is only possible to do something like a 'proof' if you know all of the underlying assumptions. Anything else is just a model of something unknowable... in the case of physics we're getting to a pretty precise model in many cases, but we'll never be able to go beyond models. The fact that just about every mathematical construct or theory has proved useful to someone in describing the actual world is evidence of something, but whether it is just that people like to use things they have created know to describe the world (Most languages and artforms have been used that way too) or something deeper is unclear. </theoretical ramble> Kevin Ball kball at pathscale.com >
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