[Beowulf] passwordless "rsh" login
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Robert G. Brown rgb at phy.duke.eduMon Jul 12 13:15:00 PDT 2004
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On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Trent Piepho wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Robert G. Brown wrote: > > this three or four times. Things wrong with rsh: > > a) no security (as in "bleeding wound" in an open network) > > b) no environment passing > > c) no tunnelling/port forwarding > > d) no intrinsic X11 support > > e) archaic and easily spoofed/snooped authentication mechanism (see a)) > > f) terrible passwordless login control > > g) more or less frozen, unsupported code > > For starting jobs on a cluster with a private network, only b and g really > matter, and then not that much. > > > Things good about rsh: > > > > h) relatively fast > > For passing data over gigabit ethernet, rsh/rcp vs ssh/scp is about four times > faster, depending on the CPU. ...but, for most applications, this is fairly unimportant -- four times a small number still being pretty small. > > > Things bad about ssh: > > > > i) relatively slow > > j) cannot select "no encryption" as option even on secure networks > > k) evil tty disconnect "feature" that requires ~. escapes (nested yet) > > to leave a job backgrounded from an ssh session. > > What is so annoying about these things is that they didn't used to be > problems with ssh. They were "features" added intentionally. I cannot > stand the "we know what's best for you" attitude. Amen. I totally, overwhelmingly agree with you. Given that j is the cause of i, having a no encryption feature would leave you with relatively cheap host authentication (a good thing) and a fast connection. k just makes me steam -- I can't see why they added this at all, as it does nothing but annoy people AFAICT. Why prevent disconnected/background tasks? Just pointless... rgb > > > _______________________________________________ > Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf at beowulf.org > To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listinfo/beowulf > -- Robert G. Brown http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/ Duke University Dept. of Physics, Box 90305 Durham, N.C. 27708-0305 Phone: 1-919-660-2567 Fax: 919-660-2525 email:rgb at phy.duke.edu
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