AMD [IBM] press release
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Bob Drzyzgula bob at drzyzgula.orgWed Nov 20 13:17:46 PST 2002
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On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 10:25:29AM -0800, Dominic Wu wrote: > > Brand names do not necessarily add significantly to the price of all units. > In the cases of both Dell and Intel, economy of scale kicks in and the > heavily marketed "Dude, you're getting a Dell" and "Intel Inside", while do > nothing to add intrinsic value to the end product, nonetheless has the end > effect of lower Workstation and CPU cost for the masses. If only AMD sold > as many Opterons (or Athlons, for that matter) as Intel does the P4's and > the P4 Xeons, you'd see more performance at even better values. Yes and no. I agree with you that the intensive marketing by these companies is a major factor in raising the volumes, and by consequence lowering the prices, for these chips. And I agree that, for like specifications and sufficiently small purchase -- like one or two systems -- a brand name system can be cost-competitive with privately- or locally-assembled systems. However, there are circumstances in which the brand name does create a premium. At my job, my group deploys about three hundred systems -- including desktops and servers -- per year. I have never, in many years of doing this, been able to find brand-name systems which precisely match our requirements. Always, to get what we need, we would have to take stuff we don't need: Operating system licenses, application software licenses, cheap keyboards and mice, service contracts, it's always something. At the same time, it is rare that we can get them configured with everything we *do* need: Fiber-optic NICs, or LS-120 drives, for example, have been issues in the past. Yes, Dell would sell those things to us, but they wouldn't integrate them into the machine -- they send them in separate boxes -- because our volumes are too low to justify a custom configuration. Then there are the things that they simply will *not* provide at all, like detailed motherboard documentation and spare parts in bulk up front. (We do all maintenance in-house for a number of reasons, including security and response time). Lastly, there are the things that a brand-name system is likely to contain that we would never have chosen ourselves, such as inferior disk drives. In the end, by assembling the systems ourselves, we are able to carefully optimize what we purchase to exactly meet our needs, and our purchase volumes are sufficient to bring bulk pricing (you should see the prices you can get when you order, like, 150 motherboards with no handling required). We are able to buy spare parts in the same batch as the originals, so there's never a compatibility problem after a repair and we don't have to pay premiums or suffer repair lags because of out-of-production parts. (If we run out of spares of a certain part, we'll usually move to a different but but equivalent component rather than buy more of something known to be problematic.) OEM parts come with documentation that is much more open and complete. Some parts, like enclosures, keyboards, NICs and LS-120s, can be used in multiple generations of systems (we replace the guts every eighteen months, one third of our staff every six months, which minimizes generational performance skew, and allows us to buy less-than-leading edge parts, which are *much* cheaper than the latest, greatest thing.) We buy retail software licenses that can be carried forward from one hardware generation to the next, and in many cases eliminates the forced-upgrade syndrome that affects many brand-name customers. We can pay a little extra to get premium components like Seagate Barracuda disk drives, that minimize maintenance costs and downtime for users. The labor to assemble, image and test one of these systems is within a few minutes of what it takes to unpack a brand-name system, integrate after-market parts, re-image the hard disk, and test. And, we never have to waste staff time arguing with a maintenance contractor. We *do* have to maintain a competent staff and a well- equipped integration facility, but tools and ESD benches are cheap compared to computers, and the empowerment that comes from all this self-reliance does wonders for job satisfaction and staff retention. --Bob
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