diskless clients? beowulf-newbie seeks advice
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Brian LaMere blamere at diversa.comFri Jun 22 10:55:08 PDT 2001
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why does every guide around talk about diskless clients? I mean...disks are stinkin cheap nowadays... I have ~$150,000 to make a test cluster (with WAY more if the test cluster shows worth) but the boss-man wants to go with nodes which aren't exactly "commodity" in my book. dual p3-1000 with 1.25Gb ram, 15krpm 18Gb drives. The things cost $8k+ each...tried to explain that 148 $1k machines would way out perform 16 $8k machines, but...oh well. These boxes take up 1u, which seems to be their main selling point (HP's lp1000r). Fortunately, these boxes are down to $6.5k now in cost (dropped a bit since we bought them a couple months back), but still... on to my point. Getting PVM to see everyone as one happy little family was easy enough. Got the network guys to isolate the little guys, so that only the worldly node could see them, since I wasn't happy with opening up everything and simply putting a little all:all in hosts.deny, and having that be all the security I had. But every guide that I've found has been all about diskless nodes for a beowulf. And this isn't really a beowulf with just pvm (and soon lam-mpi and mpich), right? I personally thought that the network nfs/tftp traffic would be horrible if they were all diskless clients... so the real question: I can put gig-e cards in the boxes instead of hard drives...right now they just have 2 100bt enet connections. I'm only using one of the enet ports at the moment, too. Would I be better with no disks, and gig-e instead? Some of the concerns I have here: though we're only starting with a hundred gigs or such of data, we'll be at multi-terabyte within a year. To be throwing around data that large, while nfs'ing the OS filesystems (on the clients) just seems like a lot for the boxes to do. Am I looking at it wrong? Also, for cost reasons we may be doing our data storage on something as tacky as network attached storage; we were looking at some NetApp boxes, but went with some EMC boxes instead. Note I'm not talking about a symmetrix box or something (I already have one of those housing my oracle data), but instead a EMC product called an "ip4700." Not all that impressed with it. Just a little genetics research firm, needing some serious horsepower to start running big hammer and blast jobs. The data we have now is just the bare minimum we need to get by, but if we had things like a working beowulf the scientists upstairs would start making, since they'd be able to use it, much more data. They hired me on as the unix guy here knowing I don't know squat about beowulfs, but that I really want to learn :) Got "how to build a beowulf" <grin> and I've read the manuals for pvm, mpich, lam-mpi, etc, and several other beowulf how-to guides. All are about diskless. Is diskless better? Is it just better because its cheaper? Are there other reasons its better? Would having gig-ethernet in the boxes instead of hard drives be far better performance-wise? Brian LaMere Diversa
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