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Jim Lux James.P.Lux at jpl.nasa.govTue Jun 24 10:19:20 PDT 2008
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At 09:25 AM 6/24/2008, Jim Lux wrote: >At 02:31 PM 6/20/2008, Peter St. John wrote: >>The destructive radius of Little Boy was about total, up to about >>one mile radius, and tapered down to light at about two miles. So >>being in a lead-lined steel container at 2000 meters might be OK for Indiana. >> >>In all action movies, blasts throw people unhurt for long >>distances; when that much force (to impart that much momentum) >>would kill you. That part is just conventional Hollywood. I could >>teach RGB to kick me so that I fly through the air as in a Bruce >>Lee movie; it's a stunt, and real kicks reallly hitting drop you >>like a sack of potatoes, I've seen it. But not in movies. Similarly >>bullets, they drill holes in you, if they pushed you through the >>air the recoil would do the same to the shooter. >> >>As for the scene's good taste I can't say, I haven't seen the movie yet :-) >> >>Peter > >As someone who used to work in the business of doing this sort of >thing (e.g. physical effects) for movies, TV shows, and commercials, >you can assume that whatever you see on screen is specifically >designed to "look like" what the director thinks will create the >correct impression in the viewer. (e.g. real rain is invisible on >film, for all intents and purposes..) > >For blasts (or kicks, etc.) flinging folks about, they use what is >known as a "jerk vest" (for the high third derivative of position, >not to describe the wearer) and bungee cords, springs, hydraulic >winches, etc. Note well that the effects tech just runs the >gear. A stunt person (aka human sandbag) survives the loads (and >gives thanks to Stapp). > >To fling things about, we used a variety of things.. air power is >popular, so is gunpowder. (look under a car that flips over for the >piece of telephone pole used as the piston in a one-shot internal >combustion engine.) Speaking of refrigerators, air pressure is just >fine for a hundred meter or so launch. For some examples: jerk vest test http://www.reelefx.com/index.php?c=effect.view&id=260 refrigerator launch http://www.reelefx.com/index.php?c=effect.view&id=124 http://www.reelefx.com/ gives a lot of examples http://www.reelefx.com/index.php?c=effect.list&id=15 has variety of specific effect tests. Search for 'air mortar' for launches Naturally, I'm particularly proud of the tornado and multicam, since I helped make them... http://www.reelefx.com/index.php?c=effect.list&id=13 tornados http://www.reelefx.com/index.php?c=effect.view&id=153 from Swordfish http://www.reelefx.com/index.php?c=effect.view&id=169 (stuff done more recently, now with digital cameras, which makes life MUCH easier..) Eadweard Muybridge would be proud of us.
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