[Beowulf] Re: Beowulf Digest, Vol 15, Issue 16
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Jim Lux James.P.Lux at jpl.nasa.govTue May 10 15:44:41 PDT 2005
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At 03:37 PM 5/10/2005, Lombard, David N wrote: > > > > Actually, the ideal "goal evaluator" is me, looking at the results of > > several runs and comparing them, then telling the "box" which way to >go > > next. As you say, if you could define a goal function with sufficient > > clarity, then any manner of optimizers could grind away on the problem > > overnight. Unfortunately, most real design problems have requirements > > that > > are a bit fuzzy: Don't make it "too big" or "too flimsy". terms like > > "flimsy" are hard to encapsulate succinctly in a mathematical >formulation > > (although, gosh, we certainly try, by requiring certain mechanical > > resonance properties and failure strengths). Much like other things, >you > > know them when you see them. > >Hmm, too "big" or "flimsy" have very precise definition based on exactly >the measures you describe. Such goal functions have been in use in the >various structural optimizers for years now, e.g., weight, stress >distributions, deflections, modal responses, &etc. True, when you have hard specifications. The hard part is negotiating a relative weight for each of these factors when doing the tradeoff, as is often the case in early trade studies. That's where the "skilled evaluator" comes in. A person with some years of experience can integrate all those different factors fairly easily. > > Aha... your idea has been anticipated! Several people have done just >this > > (using a Beowulf, even, for the optimizing). Randy Haupt did a fair > > amount > > of it with wire antennas (and others, I'm sure). There was also >someone > > at > > UCLA who designed wireless antennas using just what you describe >(adding > > and removing small patches of conductive surface). They then >fabricated > > the antennas and tested them. > >Yes, there are a number of extant solutions using stochastic >optimization in the automotive and aerospace manufacturers among others >for these very purposes. Clusters running in throughput mode are a >really good engine for this work. > >-- >David N. Lombard > >My comments represent my opinions, not those of Intel Corporation. James Lux, P.E. Spacecraft Radio Frequency Subsystems Group Flight Communications Systems Section Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Mail Stop 161-213 4800 Oak Grove Drive Pasadena CA 91109 tel: (818)354-2075 fax: (818)393-6875
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