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Robert G. Brown rgb at phy.duke.eduFri Apr 8 10:07:32 PDT 2005
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On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Mark Hahn wrote: > > Water has all sorts of nifty properties -- large heat capacity (relative > > to air), intermediate boiling point, LARGE latent heat of vaporization > > water cooling is certainly very attractive to an HPC installation - > even if you're not doing high-density stuff (say, >15 KW/rack), > you've still got obscene amounts of space taken up by airflow > and chillers. > > on the other hand, I really don't want 800 water-filled pipes in my > machineroom. putting a heat-exchanger on the front and/or back of each > rack would work (SGI does it, as well as some OTC products.) I don't > think much of the APC sealed-cooled-rack approach, at least not in > a machineroom, in part because they don't seem to understand that > machines are front-to-back. Liebert's top-of-rack boosters seem very > much like a retro-fit solution, to me. > > is it possible to make a flexible heatpipe? if there was a sealed > heatpipe that sucked heat off my CPUs, that would make the problem > much easier. perhaps the cold end of such heatpipes could be cooled > by a chilled-water loop (even eth-gly), which wouldn't be as bad > if it had fewer, simpler or factory-configured connectors. There are wet solutions out there including ones that are wet right onto/through the CPU heatsink, coming in through special fittings in the back: http://www.pyramid.de/e/produkte/server/cluster-liquid-cooling.php (and more). Google as always is your friend. I think that one CAN do all of these things -- it is just "messier" in every sense of the word and adds significantly to the overall expense because the further you get from the beaten path, the more expensive things are. There are benefits; I don't know if (up front expense or not) they are ultimately cost-benefit wins in most cases or in any specific cases. As you have advanced in your own arguments, my own opinion is that if you have the space and net power/cooling capacity in the first place, the easiest thing by far to do is to build racks or shelves of systems at a density that can be "comfortably" carried by mainstream, not-horribly-expensive chiller/airflow combinations that don't (maybe) require a union plumber to be on hand every time you want to remove a node or don't have whatever horrible set of inspections an integrated "wet" environment might require to pass code and limit liability. Code requirements and liability issues don't usually get much mention in the online advertising for wet solutions and I don't know what they are. I would >>guess<< that at the very least every single circuit would have to be GFCI (in fact, I think that this is plain old code just about everywhere already, not just machine rooms) and that there would have to be environmental monitors and other cutoffs to protect people and equipment from the effects of wet leaks and spills, especially if either a conducting medium (water) or toxic medium (EG) were used as a coolant in close proximity to bare wire electrical power -- in a case, for example. Give the hassle and cost and complicated code/liability issues, I think wet >>might<< be a thing for folks doing tight-packed 16 KW racks to think about, but not so good for <8 KW racks, where good airflow and reasonable rack spacing can still do the trick pretty effectively. Is >>ANYBODY<< on this list doing wet? I'd like to hear about it if so, as it is an interesting idea and it LOOKS like there are companies that sell wet, so there must be clients, right? rgb -- Robert G. Brown http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/ Duke University Dept. of Physics, Box 90305 Durham, N.C. 27708-0305 Phone: 1-919-660-2567 Fax: 919-660-2525 email:rgb at phy.duke.edu
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